Liz, lets put it this way. Not all the opposition parties are good but some of them are decent. Not all of PAP are lousy but some of them just cannot make it. Why can't the opposition be given a chance to prove themselves. I am sure you want to be given a chance to try to do something for your fellow Singaporeans. All we are saying is that PAP had their time and they didnt perform at their best and they didnt admit their mistakes till the very last desperate moment. What i can see from PAP's reaction is that they have finally woken up and know that they should be serving us Singaporeans and not the other way around. By giving the opposition a chance to prove their worth, we are also giving PAP a chance to once again prove to us whether they are really sincere when it comes to listening to us. If the opposition really cannot make it, PAP can always make a great comeback and show us they can really deliver.
My personal view is that this gen of PAP is not like the old guards where they really went through hardships and put their heart and soul into running the country. Thats why we are where we are now. Our current crop of PAP had gone through many elections UNCONTESTED and they are untested. So technically they are not proven success too. History has it when a new Kingdom is started, it is always great for the first 20-30 years becos they group that built the country will ensure it has a certain level of success for a number of years. When the old guards passed on, the new gen will be weakened if they are untested and uncontested (in terms of war), then complacency sink and slowly the structure will weaken and that is where dawn of a new era will kick in.
We are at this point now. So lets bring in some decent opposition to track PAP and let the PAP be transparent and prove to us they can deliver at the highest level. Then we can have our good times back. Please remember opposition are Singaporeans too and they also have good interest for the country. Surely we dont want people from other countries taking over our beloved country.
I have been working in China for the past 15 years, the last 8 being non-stop. Thanks to PAP that chased my employer out of Singapore back then because Singapore can't keep up with their cost targets. My employer told me to go along or leave. I am an engineer by profession. Should I change my profession into a financial guy and stayed on in SG? I went instead, because I have a family to take care. I was 36 when I moved to China. I met several Singaporeans out there that share the same experience as I do. Some worked for MNCs, others work for SG companies that also have to move there. Are we all not Singaporeans? SG is a small country and many of us are working internationally. Our children are not so fortunate as they are now only working as financial persons in domestic SG. Worst still, some of these jobs are being taken away by citizens from neighboring countries whose government can't provide them jobs. SG companies are helping them to get PRs which is still cheaper than paying all the levies. Young Singaporeans, where else can you go? You are not going to work in an international arena like your elders; be it you do, you will be told by PAP to go back overseas when you want to be more involved in your home country. Is working overseas for a Singaporean can become a lesser Singapore, or even an outcast? M-I-W, wake up!!!
I dun see anything really bad abt pap..think we just kept thinning that opposition will be better, but what did the opposition parties did when they got elected?did they really do a great job?or even a better one compare to pap?we target pap,yet how much do we rely on them?honestly, singaporeans should reflect on themselves before they complain about pap.it's a fact that opposition parties only talk about how well they want to BE, not what they are going to do.what's the point of talking without taking into consideration things like money issues?who's going to 'pay' for us to enjoy lower cost housing and all?country's saving?worker tax?excuse me, that's our own money too.what's the solution they are exactly giving?is there, a solution from the opposition parties?
Don't understand why you are arguing and comparing train transport of Australia and Singapore. Obviously cars over there are cheaper right?! who would still want to take public transport since they can easily own a car? Even a student in Australia can afford a car while getting a car in Singapore is like impossible!
CSM got a good career in the legal field which earn him more than an MP salary but to show us than WP is ready to speak for us in parliament , he is willing to stay back in Singapore
Bo liao, if CSM doesn't win, what else can LKY do to him? Of course he is welcomed to stay or to go back to China where he already has some sort of portfolio for working there so long. Like that also can be interpreted into "LKY tells Chen to go back China".
O yes, I completely agree with you Jasper. Not all opposition candidates are good, while not all PAP candidates are bad. PAP has had their time, and you are right when you say they may not have performed up to standard. But we have to consider that they did do some good. Look at Singapore's standing in the global environment. We are generally well-respected, and we have much less hassle entering countries with our passports compared to many of our neighbors passports. And for a fact, Singapore runs much more efficiently than many other countries in the world, even the developed world. Of course this is not to say that we should blindly support the ruling party. We have to consider the credible opposition candidates that the opposition has fielded. However we have to also keep in mind that while you may say many current MPs have been untested, they have at least had the opportunity to learn from the old guard and have experience in running the country smoothly. Whereas many opposition candidates have neither had the privilege to interact with the old guard, nor proven themselves to be capable of running the country. Do I want to change the ruling party? Absolutely not. I would not want to risk putting my country into the hands of people who have absolutely no experience in running a country. But do I want the ruling party to continue the way it has? Absolutely not as well. I would like to see them respond more to the needs of their citizens as well as take better care of people who have been Singaporeans all their lives. The only way this can be achieved is to vote out the bad PAPs and vote in the good oppositions. This would be ideal, but not feasible. Politics in Singapore is such that weak PAP candidates are able the hide behind strong PAP candidates. So how should Singaporeans vote? I believe that at the end of the day, it is most important for Singaporeans to vote with their heads and not their hearts. I believe you should vote for which candidates you like better in your constituency rather than look at which party they have affiliations with. Who do you honestly think will do a better job running the country?
There was one time many Sporeans left the country, they want them back. There was another time, they asked people to embrace globalisation go overseas to work. CSM fits both. He wants to come back and serve in Spore, why not?
I agree with your comment on public transport, but living in Australia, I can tell you the situation here is worse than in Singapore. I used to be like you complaining about Singapore trains until I came to live here and realized Singapore trains are heaven compared to those here. Off peak hours you wait 6mins for a train, you think that is bad? Try 30mins here between trains of the same train line. And that is if they are on time and there are no cancellations. Which happens very often during peak hours, in fact during off peak hours as well...all the time in fact achieving an 80+% punctuality rate is something the train company boasts about. I have also personally experienced the sardine squash on public trains during peak hours. Trust me, it is worse here than it is in Singapore. Especially if you consider the fact that in Singapore if you miss the train during peak hours you have to wait 3mins, here, you have to wait 15. Not to mention you have dodgy train stations that you wouldn't want to get off at even if you had to, and seats on trains which have been badly vandalized. So yes, our transport system is not ideal in Singapore, but it gets worst in other countries. Actually public transport is considered not too bad in Singapore. I'm just saying. I don't mean to imply that therefore we should vote the PAP or the opposition.
S. I agree with you. I too have been living in Australia for a while now and I dare say many Singaporeans have taken the efficient public transport (PT) system in Singapore for granted. People have argued that due to the much bigger size of Australia, it is more difficult to plan and build a better transport system. However, the same can be argued for Singapore. Can a small land mass cater for many lines and network? Maybe it can in an upward manner (which we already have in place and still looking into). I agree that our PT in Singapore might not be the best. However, maybe the issue isn't with the transport system, but more population as Beesting pointed out. But not only population but the solution also needs to address massive number of people commuting at the same time. Could there be a scenario where work hours can be more staggered?
Well, maybe.. but let's consider it a little more. Ms G starts work at 6am, ends let say at 4pm. She thinks to herself, oh 4pm.. still early, maybe I could take a walk and do some shopping. Unknowingly, 6pm arrives punctually. Ms G sighs... Rush hour... I have to be sandwiched again. My point is, PAP or opposition can come up with great ideas to counter or at least give a try to address an issue. However, we must all remember that we all live in the society. It take both hands to clap. No matter what, every individual is contributing (be it positively or negatively). In a similar regard where we accuse of politicians or their party of not walking the talk, we as citizens must also take responsibility and accountability in our attitudes, actions and behavior to ensure a good and intelligent (IQ, EQ and SQ) Singapore exist. And of course every individual voter has a huge role in casting their votes.
Let's not challenge and oppose just for the sake of it Let's not complain and pin-point failure without more analysis, reasoning and coming up with an alternative. There is a lot of outcry with "this is not good enough" and very little whispers of "yup, this was what happened that worked and contributed to success". Yes, it is definitely good to be critical but let it be constructive. Let us also start to appreciate what we have and focus on what has worked, and to build on it. IT is important to recognise good and solid foundations and keep building upon it, instead of spending our time shouting about the holes we already know exist. It is good to embrace change but we also need to plan for change and implement it gradually so the country, its people and economy can sustain.
PAP needs to be challenged constructively in their approach to issues. Oppostitions need to have good strategy and implementation plans/processes to overcome the issue that they are challenging the PAP. What is the issue? How are we going to address it? What will the outcome be if we use Plan A (or B or C) now, and what will the outcome be in 5, 10, 20 years time? What are the flow-on effects? How do we measure success? Is it fair to measure it in this way or the other. There are approx. 5 million people in Singapore. One size does not fit all. I agree to vote for the individual instead of only focusing on the party.
I work and live 8500 miles away from Singapore for 14 years yet I still love Singapore and am always proud of being a Singaporean. Although I can't go to a kopi tiam physically, except once a year when I go HOME, I drink Made in Singapore 3-in-1s with my favorite kaya. The truth is living overseas makes me more Singaporean than when I lived there and I am sure alot of overseas Singaporeans can relate that. I applaud CSM for his giving back to the society and he has my utmost respect.
GCT had to accompany Ms Tin on her walkabouts, saw this on national TV. She's wants to be MP and GCT had to accompany her. She's a toddler, that's the implication. Perhaps, GCT has to be with her in her meet the people sessions next time. Scary, do you want to vote Ms Tin as MP? Tongue in cheek question: Where do you folks say Ms Tin go if she loses the elections?
I dunno what is your motive when u put up this caption. Before I start to comment, I will tell u guys that I am not pro or anti- to any parrticular party. What MM meant is that if Mr. Chen loses in the GE, he can go back to China where he has been working for 30 years & has established his career in the legal field. It is not as if he has done something very wrong here & MM asked him to roll back to China to where he belongs for good. In any blogpost we put up, at least what we can do is not to mislead our readers no matter how much we dislike a particular party.
Hear! Hear ! Money is an issue but the new gen of PAP seems to be catering more to the younger generation whose main concerns are getting cushy jobs, nice subsidised apartments in good neighbourhoods and great shopping. The older poorer generation who had supported PAP seem to be passed over and you wonder why they are pro -opposition?Just look at our transport system....From 7am to ?9.30am getting to work is a nightmare and don't talk about 6pm onwards trying to get home!When was the last time our Transport ministers take the public transport?20 years ago?? did one of them say we can actually accommodate another what half a million more people on the island?????
At least Chen is grateful and came back to Singapore to fight for what he believes and what we should have: a voice . How many PRCs do that once they get the education,the work experience and the PRs? Most go off to Australia,Canada,NZ etc.......worse some pass themselves there as Singaporeans!!!
i always wondered why the top guns do not retire when other good MPs are retiring. Well with that type of salary who wants to retire! Imagine their one month salary, how many factory workers can be paid? ... and i am not talking about factory worker monthly pay but annual pay.
Liz you are not thinking or using the little brain you have. The opposition has already achieved the impossible even before they are elected - they got PM Lee, Vivienne Balakrishnan and DPM Wong Kan Seng to apologise publically for their sloppy work inspite of their astronomical pay. Without the opposition do you think they would ever apologise? Come on - wake up kid!!
The most important thing come from heart but not 1st world rocket high salary which nobody can explain why? PAP will still win but I wish courages ppl to speak up for commoners.
If they follow up on their threat on HDB upgrading, that will show them up for what they are -- recalcitrant, intractable and bloody-minded. I'm sure they are all of the above, but not stupid. Everybody can learn and it's up to voters to teach them.
They fight to win.....We were never in any doubt of that. It involves a lot of dirty rules, moving goal-posts, libel suits, vote-buying, threats, ISD. We'll see who wins.
Don't worry we have social media! They can't control any info disseminated on this platform. So, share whatever you know (: And seriously, if they control CNA on what news to report, it implies that they are not being transparent at all.
Opposition parties might not do a better job than PAP. But the main concern now is that Singaporeans need a change. We need a ruling party that is more humane than PAP. If opposition wins, they will serve all Singaporeans, regardless of race, religion, language and mostly costituancy. Be it Hougang, Aljunied, Potong Pasir, Yishun, Ang Mo Kio or whatever. All Singaporeans will be treated as equal.
I will sell my citizenship for $2 million too. Wat is the point of staying in the country when I dun hv a sense of belonging here and r condemn Tat we are not talents. And SG dun hv talents and most of us holds degrees from countries like London, USA, Australia and etc. And foreigners from china India and Philippines having high paying jobs in SG considered talents ?
In fact the opposition has done a lot- just check out all the youtube videos on how Sylvia Lim has kept PAP power in check. As for policy, let's face it, how can the opposition claim anything when PAP is in power??
Same observation here. Straits Times & sister papers, TV, etc, they are very good in telling us how badly off are our neighbouring countries and how corrupt are their leaders, all those demonstrations in Thailand, Myanmar, KL, all the details about sex videos of Anwar, etc etc.
Yup I checked last night's coverage on CNA, first 30min is PAP. Then 2-3 opposition, then PAP again. Then 2-3 opposition then PAP again. then end. WTF man
If Chen Show Mao must go back to China, then all the PRC foreigners must go back first.
MM Lee should go back to 1965. Back to the past. He should go back to the Abyss to torment the devils there. For this Devil is worse than all devils. Long live the Devil!
chiam see tong may not be able to stand up straight but his mental strength is stronger than all of us. 27 years as an MP without an office and still fighting for democracy. It shows that his mind is still strong to make decisions that affect us. Most of us will just resign if we are treated unfairly at work after 2-3 years.
For the present LKY, it seems that he forgot that as a person who is supposedly in a reputable position, words need to be chosen wisely. People look up to you as an example to lead. In his recent comments, the aura of arrogance within him seemed to be stronger than anything else. Not even a slight tinge of sincerity like in the old days.A leader should not be arrogant. Simply to suggest things such as going back to china shows that he has lost touch of what he really is there for to what he wants to be there for.
HMMM. might as well ask Janil Puthucheary to go back KL too. I am surprise that PAP rather have a non-Singaporean born MP to govern us. So what is the difference if Chen Show Mao is not born Singaporean or his family moved here.
My grandfather spilt his blood and sweat for my father and me. AND my own government treats me like a third class citizen in Singapore comparing to a foreigner and the upper class.
Hack, I might as well sell my citizenship to any foreigners for $2 million and I migrate somewhere else to be second-class citizen. If PAP allows.
Singapore Citizenship and RED passport for SALE on EBAY!
dude, appreciation should be given where it's due. i believe i speak for all when i say we appreciate what he did for us in the past. But for what he's done in the present, there's little to appreciate on. Picture it this way, why does an employee have to work hard in a company? He'll lose his job if he doesn't and wouldn't be able to support his family. Imagine telling this employee that he would never lose his job no matter what mistakes he made.Humans tend to get complacent. I'm not anti-PAP but i think it's time they wake up from their bed made from their salaries.If they do, i will definitely vote for them. At the rate they are going, it won't be too long before the gap between the rich and the poor be as big as it is in indonesia considering people can't retire because they can't afford to. Btw, I have a lot of indonesian friends and even they prefer staying in indonesia even though the country is more racist than singapore. Many are trapped after taking tuition grants not allowing them to study outside of singapore unless they have 50k in a local singapore bank or paying a sum. Lower salary may cause corruption but a salary too high may cause arrogance and a blind sight to the citizens. For your info, democracy does not have ministers threatening to bring in their personal army if there ever was a freak election. That's just a sign who will not let the people make a choice which is not in his favor. check a dictionary to see where it fit best. it's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Use common sense and logic to assess a situation. Test the result with your knowledge.Once that is done use your heart to decide.
Who are the ungrateful bastards who took away our pension just before we reach our 45 retirement age and increased it to 55? Now that we have reached our 55 retirement, still cannot take out our hard-earned money until we are 60, and that is only given to us as a few hundred dollar monthly pittance!!!!
LKY tells CSM to go back to where? why don't LKY go back to Malaysia.
You're mistaken, lincoln did not speak ill of Chiam See Tong, he is pointing out to that person who made the remark. We know CST worked very hard for the good of our country despite of being shackled by the PAP's unfair treatment. I have never voted for the opposition, but I regretted giving the PAP my support in the past and now do not have the chance to vote against them b'cos of their underhand tactics in this election 2011.
I am merely pointing out the mis-title of the article.
Your personal attack to him speaks volume of you and your spirit.
It speaks of the same volume of the same person who says, "Chiam See Tong can't even stand up straight to talk, and you people want him to lead the country"
Wanted to give the ruling party some support, but after looking at the flaming and whacking of opposition candidates left and right and even their proganda ppl here like this Benedict, no thanks.
You think so? Ask yourself will u do that? After 30yrs away fm yr birth place. He still remember what Singapore kopi in taste like? He love singapoe. Yes I believe if I'm nut.
Chen studied at Nanyang Primary School, Catholic High School and Anglo-Chinese School and his parents have been here since 1972 -- why you call him chinaman. Then all my friends working in London and New York for many years and been overseas since university days, you call them englishman or american mei.... Many of them don't come back yet because Singapore don't recognise their talent in the arts, or in finance/legal career they want to be exposed to a more global setting so they can really stretch and acquire skills, or they cannot get more involved in society here because we've been brought up to be politically uninvolved and we fear repercussions if we get involved. So they just stay overseas and achieve in their careers. Now Chen is back to the 'smaller' world of singapore in terms of career to do something because he cares for the people and future of Singaporea and he gets demonized? please have a sense of justice... he's brave okay to stand up to old man.
Scolding people who need a change or people with perspective thinking a basterds is a best you can do? Anyway, eh dont compare for christ sake. Never compare the worst but the best to progress. We dont take things for granted therefore we hope for a change. See my parents and relatives suffer from inflation and debts, they dote me, I dont take them for granted, this is it. U are LKY too.
Exactly, Tell him that if he fail in the election, he must go back to china, it is as equivalent as asking all foreigner that cannot make it to go back china, I dont see him doing that!!? My classmate is from china, she fail her accounting exam 3 time, i dont see her going back to china? LOL What LKY talking?????
Please be objective. CSM volunteered to serve NS! if that is not enough, he is riding high in his career, who would be so stupid to give up millions of dollars a year to come here and be flamed, slapped left & right. CSM can walk into the best law firms in the world any moment.
He is a citizen of the world. Could've just retired in the US of A and made lotsa money. But he's here - appreciate him! It's like how God so loved the world who sent his son but to see him crucified.
pap made you work until you die ,retirement is a dream for singaporean ,retirement is for the bosses not any orinally working class because of their changing policy that side the bosses, compare further not just indonesia , people live to enjoy living enjoy life, but what about singaporenan .live only for work work work.
true that. Like nicole seah said, if she wanted to be rich and get fame, she would've joined the PAP. why would he come back from afar just to be discriminated by the so called leaders
CSM has stayed overseas for the past 30 years on his own... LKY has travelled overseas for the past 40years (at least) on Singapore account. CSM flys Singapore flag overseas, but it's probably LKY bring Singapore flag overseas and try to plant it somewhere.
There's no who is better or not. They are equivalently outstanding. Nobody resorts to finger pointing and I probably won't ask people to go back. Imagine all the policies been returned? i think they were mainly your policies, sir.
No absolute right or wrong. PAP have to accept that this is their own doing. Which is in fact good for us, Singaporeans. PAP's concern now is their own party. Whereas everyone else is concerned about the country and country issues.
They are over-paid, unlike our neighbours, so rightfull they should perform well, though not up to our expectations yet. I don't see why we should be appreciative when they are earning an obscene salary. This is the minimum they must deliver. If they get much lower pay, I would salute them and be more appreciative for their contributions to our nation, but not when their annual pay is more than 100 times an averge low-income earner who earns just 1K per month. The PAP's argument of offering ever higher pay to prevent corruption is flawed, how much is enough to prevent it? Nobody knows. Where's the pubic service spirit? And does the PAP candidates is of such low calibre and quality (having scrutinise by PAP over so many tea sessions and investigations) that we must pay them high to prevent corruption? Look at recent cases of high paid civil servants who still corrupted, so no matter what, money can't solve corruption.
Why the double standards? If a foreign born national becomes Singaporean and support PAP, he is considered a gem. If he sides the opposition, he is considered a reject and should get out of Singapore?? Does PAP owns Singapore?
respect has to be earned and should be mutual. Nobody likes to badmouth another, least of all LKY but its he who badmouth just about everybody who disagrees with him. And why only bring out the worse-off countries for comparision? please do not bring out the past in order to blindly glorify him . Thats the past. This GE is about the future. The PAP policies presently have failed us so its just moot to talk about voting them for the future.
It is good to appreciate what LKY had done in the PAST. Look at the last 5 yrs, see what some of their million$ ministers had done, are their performance up to standard?? The answer is very clear. Many singaporeans are disadvantaged from education to jobs. Can this translate into a stronger nation?? Stronger PAP don't equate to a stronger Singapore!
Next, look at the quality of PAP new candidates!! We are going to pay "Bestest price" in the world, what do we get?
The answer is so clear. Please learn to vote "without fear and favour". Don't remain in the past, grow up and stand on your own. LKY won't be be able to perform like before. What we are seeing are "clones", their performances are not up to standard. (Ng looks like Lee, can he perform like him, hehe).
Are we buying imitation copy at the highest price in the world?
I have no respect for Lee Kuan Yew. He's an arrogant political bully. We, Singaporeans must hold him accountable for the loss of our reserves incurred by GIC & Temasek Holdings.
this title is totally mis-post. "If they do not win, then Mr Chen Show Mao - I have no suggestions as to what he can do, he can go back to China where he has been for 30 years." please read properly.
Please be fair to opposition candidates who step up. We are mature enough to judge candidates, to debate with others and debate we must because we love our country. When we debate, the best ideas and perspectives come out. That is the essence of having a critical mass of opposition in parliament, its not about individuals.
When there is open debate in all spheres of life, not just in the new media - we begin to realise how talented and intelligent Singaporeans really are. I have a dream - that all Singaporeans are valued, regardless of their educational background, where they stay, political affliations, race, language and religion.
I have lots of respect for LKY and read all his books and most of his interviews. However his comment that CSM should go back to China if he lost the election, really made me lose respect for LKY. It is clearly double standards to the max! I doubt he will ever say that if CSM were a PAP member.
I travelled extensively and have to agree that our neighbors are less better off than us. However, that does not mean we cannot better ourselves further. The fact of the current ruling party and government of Singapore is a disconnect with ground issues.... And that why I think the alternative (not opposing) parties are good to leverage the platform further. Thanks.
You think it is okay to be grateful like a dog who never questions and who's gratefulness is unconditional? I would rather be a grateful bastard who risks being called an "ungrateful bastard" by the likes of you. To be really grateful, you have to call a spade, for the sake of the country. The country is bigger than the person who played a large part in building it. And yes, the really ungrateful are those who worship at the altar of authority.
With apologies only to my dog, and all other dogs. They are way better than the acolytes at the altar of authority.
So tired of CNA - eg last nite so much coverage of ruling party and just scraps of alternative parties. And then the press also like that. Will somebody come up with a paper and TV that Singaporeans can be proud of?
If Chen Show Mao had not left Singapore to study overseas all those years, to become a triple Ivy league candidate before returning to fight for our democracy, he would not be the "foreign talent" that all those PAP "talented" guys fear. Remember, that he was a Singapore citizen of Taiwan parentage who migrated to America to study, shows that our education system back than was not good & open enough.
how to get our fellow singaporeans to see the light and vote opposition? cos the whore media which most singaporeans rely on for news, always sabo the opposition and cover up the useless good for nothing papigs.
For those of you who bad-mouthed LKY, have you ever lived outside your coconut shell? Don't have to travel too far, try living in Indonesia for 6 months and see if you enjoy Singapore more or Indonesia more. Don't take things for granted and always remember how you all got to be where you are now. Don't be an ungrateful bastards.
Fair enough, you say driving is cheap here right? Have you tried parking in CBD (Australian version of multi-storey carpark), one full day of parking can cost you $80++. And that is the reason why trains at peak hour is crazy insane here as people simply can't afford to drive and then park going to work. And as you say, who wants to take public transport right? Than please explain why the trains are so sardine packed during peak hours.
Also, if buying a car in Singapore is impossible, why are traffic jams so bad???? Why are there so many cars on the road that the government keeps having to raise and build more ERP gantries??? and COE prices are high.
As simple as this; LKY fears competition fr Workers party & Chen Show Mao.CSM should not feel ashamed or angry to be told to return to china.He can say the same to LKY too.As s'porean esp'y after serving NS he has every right to stay here.He is also gainfully employed.It is proven that CSM is a formidable opponent & very popular too.
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Liz, lets put it this way. Not all the opposition parties are good but some of them are decent. Not all of PAP are lousy but some of them just cannot make it. Why can't the opposition be given a chance to prove themselves. I am sure you want to be given a chance to try to do something for your fellow Singaporeans. All we are saying is that PAP had their time and they didnt perform at their best and they didnt admit their mistakes till the very last desperate moment. What i can see from PAP's reaction is that they have finally woken up and know that they should be serving us Singaporeans and not the other way around. By giving the opposition a chance to prove their worth, we are also giving PAP a chance to once again prove to us whether they are really sincere when it comes to listening to us. If the opposition really cannot make it, PAP can always make a great comeback and show us they can really deliver.
ReplyDeleteMy personal view is that this gen of PAP is not like the old guards where they really went through hardships and put their heart and soul into running the country. Thats why we are where we are now. Our current crop of PAP had gone through many elections UNCONTESTED and they are untested. So technically they are not proven success too. History has it when a new Kingdom is started, it is always great for the first 20-30 years becos they group that built the country will ensure it has a certain level of success for a number of years. When the old guards passed on, the new gen will be weakened if they are untested and uncontested (in terms of war), then complacency sink and slowly the structure will weaken and that is where dawn of a new era will kick in.
We are at this point now. So lets bring in some decent opposition to track PAP and let the PAP be transparent and prove to us they can deliver at the highest level. Then we can have our good times back. Please remember opposition are Singaporeans too and they also have good interest for the country. Surely we dont want people from other countries taking over our beloved country.
aiyah... PAP lah... invite SOOOO many foreigner lai, then now want to kick out the true singaporeans... next time singaporean become minority le...
ReplyDeleteI have been working in China for the past 15 years, the last 8 being non-stop. Thanks to PAP that chased my employer out of Singapore back then because Singapore can't keep up with their cost targets. My employer told me to go along or leave. I am an engineer by profession. Should I change my profession into a financial guy and stayed on in SG? I went instead, because I have a family to take care. I was 36 when I moved to China. I met several Singaporeans out there that share the same experience as I do. Some worked for MNCs, others work for SG companies that also have to move there. Are we all not Singaporeans? SG is a small country and many of us are working internationally. Our children are not so fortunate as they are now only working as financial persons in domestic SG. Worst still, some of these jobs are being taken away by citizens from neighboring countries whose government can't provide them jobs. SG companies are helping them to get PRs which is still cheaper than paying all the levies. Young Singaporeans, where else can you go? You are not going to work in an international arena like your elders; be it you do, you will be told by PAP to go back overseas when you want to be more involved in your home country. Is working overseas for a Singaporean can become a lesser Singapore, or even an outcast? M-I-W, wake up!!!
ReplyDeleteI dun see anything really bad abt pap..think we just kept thinning that opposition will be better, but what did the opposition parties did when they got elected?did they really do a great job?or even a better one compare to pap?we target pap,yet how much do we rely on them?honestly, singaporeans should reflect on themselves before they complain about pap.it's a fact that opposition parties only talk about how well they want to BE, not what they are going to do.what's the point of talking without taking into consideration things like money issues?who's going to 'pay' for us to enjoy lower cost housing and all?country's saving?worker tax?excuse me, that's our own money too.what's the solution they are exactly giving?is there, a solution from the opposition parties?
ReplyDeleteDon't understand why you are arguing and comparing train transport of Australia and Singapore. Obviously cars over there are cheaper right?! who would still want to take public transport since they can easily own a car? Even a student in Australia can afford a car while getting a car in Singapore is like impossible!
ReplyDeleteCSM got a good
ReplyDeletecareer in the legal field which earn him more than an MP salary but to show us than WP is ready to speak for us in parliament , he is willing to stay back in Singapore
Bo liao, if CSM doesn't win, what else can LKY do to him? Of course he is welcomed to stay or to go back to China where he already has some sort of portfolio for working there so long. Like that also can be interpreted into "LKY tells Chen to go back China".
ReplyDeleteO yes, I completely agree with you Jasper. Not all opposition candidates are good, while not all PAP candidates are bad. PAP has had their time, and you are right when you say they may not have performed up to standard. But we have to consider that they did do some good. Look at Singapore's standing in the global environment. We are generally well-respected, and we have much less hassle entering countries with our passports compared to many of our neighbors passports. And for a fact, Singapore runs much more efficiently than many other countries in the world, even the developed world. Of course this is not to say that we should blindly support the ruling party. We have to consider the credible opposition candidates that the opposition has fielded. However we have to also keep in mind that while you may say many current MPs have been untested, they have at least had the opportunity to learn from the old guard and have experience in running the country smoothly. Whereas many opposition candidates have neither had the privilege to interact with the old guard, nor proven themselves to be capable of running the country. Do I want to change the ruling party? Absolutely not. I would not want to risk putting my country into the hands of people who have absolutely no experience in running a country. But do I want the ruling party to continue the way it has? Absolutely not as well. I would like to see them respond more to the needs of their citizens as well as take better care of people who have been Singaporeans all their lives. The only way this can be achieved is to vote out the bad PAPs and vote in the good oppositions. This would be ideal, but not feasible. Politics in Singapore is such that weak PAP candidates are able the hide behind strong PAP candidates. So how should Singaporeans vote? I believe that at the end of the day, it is most important for Singaporeans to vote with their heads and not their hearts. I believe you should vote for which candidates you like better in your constituency rather than look at which party they have affiliations with. Who do you honestly think will do a better job running the country?
ReplyDeleteThis result is disappointing, we now have more parliament seat but only 1 pop party. We should count the overseas votes for potong pasig.
ReplyDeleteI totally agreed on your comment.
ReplyDeleteThere was one time many Sporeans left the country, they want them back. There was another time, they asked people to embrace globalisation go overseas to work. CSM fits both. He wants to come back and serve in Spore, why not?
ReplyDeleteTry sitting in a boardroom with 80 odd people agaisnt u.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your comment on public transport, but living in Australia, I can tell you the situation here is worse than in Singapore. I used to be like you complaining about Singapore trains until I came to live here and realized Singapore trains are heaven compared to those here. Off peak hours you wait 6mins for a train, you think that is bad? Try 30mins here between trains of the same train line. And that is if they are on time and there are no cancellations. Which happens very often during peak hours, in fact during off peak hours as well...all the time in fact achieving an 80+% punctuality rate is something the train company boasts about. I have also personally experienced the sardine squash on public trains during peak hours. Trust me, it is worse here than it is in Singapore. Especially if you consider the fact that in Singapore if you miss the train during peak hours you have to wait 3mins, here, you have to wait 15. Not to mention you have dodgy train stations that you wouldn't want to get off at even if you had to, and seats on trains which have been badly vandalized. So yes, our transport system is not ideal in Singapore, but it gets worst in other countries. Actually public transport is considered not too bad in Singapore. I'm just saying. I don't mean to imply that therefore we should vote the PAP or the opposition.
ReplyDeletethr old man after wife past away, mental oledi not balance la...that y lately like to talk nonsense
ReplyDeleteMM has and always will be a bully
ReplyDeleteS. I agree with you. I too have been living in Australia for a while now and I dare say many Singaporeans have taken the efficient public transport (PT) system in Singapore for granted. People have argued that due to the much bigger size of Australia, it is more difficult to plan and build a better transport system. However, the same can be argued for Singapore. Can a small land mass cater for many lines and network? Maybe it can in an upward manner (which we already have in place and still looking into). I agree that our PT in Singapore might not be the best. However, maybe the issue isn't with the transport system, but more population as Beesting pointed out. But not only population but the solution also needs to address massive number of people commuting at the same time. Could there be a scenario where work hours can be more staggered?
ReplyDeleteWell, maybe.. but let's consider it a little more. Ms G starts work at 6am, ends let say at 4pm. She thinks to herself, oh 4pm.. still early, maybe I could take a walk and do some shopping. Unknowingly, 6pm arrives punctually. Ms G sighs... Rush hour... I have to be sandwiched again. My point is, PAP or opposition can come up with great ideas to counter or at least give a try to address an issue. However, we must all remember that we all live in the society. It take both hands to clap. No matter what, every individual is contributing (be it positively or negatively). In a similar regard where we accuse of politicians or their party of not walking the talk, we as citizens must also take responsibility and accountability in our attitudes, actions and behavior to ensure a good and intelligent (IQ, EQ and SQ) Singapore exist. And of course every individual voter has a huge role in casting their votes.
Let's not challenge and oppose just for the sake of it Let's not complain and pin-point failure without more analysis, reasoning and coming up with an alternative. There is a lot of outcry with "this is not good enough" and very little whispers of "yup, this was what happened that worked and contributed to success". Yes, it is definitely good to be critical but let it be constructive. Let us also start to appreciate what we have and focus on what has worked, and to build on it. IT is important to recognise good and solid foundations and keep building upon it, instead of spending our time shouting about the holes we already know exist. It is good to embrace change but we also need to plan for change and implement it gradually so the country, its people and economy can sustain.
PAP needs to be challenged constructively in their approach to issues. Oppostitions need to have good strategy and implementation plans/processes to overcome the issue that they are challenging the PAP. What is the issue? How are we going to address it? What will the outcome be if we use Plan A (or B or C) now, and what will the outcome be in 5, 10, 20 years time? What are the flow-on effects? How do we measure success? Is it fair to measure it in this way or the other. There are approx. 5 million people in Singapore. One size does not fit all. I agree to vote for the individual instead of only focusing on the party.
I work and live 8500 miles away from Singapore for 14 years yet I still love Singapore and am always proud of being a Singaporean. Although I can't go to a kopi tiam physically, except once a year when I go HOME, I drink Made in Singapore 3-in-1s with my favorite kaya. The truth is living overseas makes me more Singaporean than when I lived there and I am sure alot of overseas Singaporeans can relate that. I applaud CSM for his giving back to the society and he has my utmost respect.
ReplyDeleteGCT had to accompany Ms Tin on her walkabouts, saw this on national TV. She's wants to be MP and GCT had to accompany her. She's a toddler, that's the implication. Perhaps, GCT has to be with her in her meet the people sessions next time. Scary, do you want to vote Ms Tin as MP?
ReplyDeleteTongue in cheek question: Where do you folks say Ms Tin go if she loses the elections?
Chen Show Mao makes a perfect PM!
ReplyDeleteI dunno what is your motive when u put up this caption. Before I start to comment, I will tell u guys that I am not pro or anti- to any parrticular party.
ReplyDeleteWhat MM meant is that if Mr. Chen loses in the GE, he can go back to China where he has been working for 30 years & has established his career in the legal field. It is not as if he has done something very wrong here & MM asked him to roll back to China to where he belongs for good. In any blogpost we put up, at least what we can do is not to mislead our readers no matter how much we dislike a particular party.
I would like to ask MM Lee to also go back to China.
ReplyDeleteHear! Hear ! Money is an issue but the new gen of PAP seems to be catering more to the younger generation whose main concerns are getting cushy jobs, nice subsidised apartments in good neighbourhoods and great shopping. The older poorer generation who had supported PAP seem to be passed over and you wonder why they are pro -opposition?Just look at our transport system....From 7am to ?9.30am getting to work is a nightmare and don't talk about 6pm onwards trying to get home!When was the last time our Transport ministers take the public transport?20 years ago?? did one of them say we can actually accommodate another what half a million more people on the island?????
ReplyDeleteAt least Chen is grateful and came back to Singapore to fight for what he believes and what we should have: a voice . How many PRCs do that once they get the education,the work experience and the PRs? Most go off to Australia,Canada,NZ etc.......worse some pass themselves there as Singaporeans!!!
ReplyDeletei always wondered why the top guns do not retire when other good MPs are retiring. Well with that type of salary who wants to retire! Imagine their one month salary, how many factory workers can be paid? ... and i am not talking about factory worker monthly pay but annual pay.
ReplyDeleteLiz you are not thinking or using the little brain you have. The opposition has already achieved the impossible even before they are elected - they got PM Lee, Vivienne Balakrishnan and DPM Wong Kan Seng to apologise publically for their sloppy work inspite of their astronomical pay. Without the opposition do you think they would ever apologise? Come on - wake up kid!!
ReplyDeleteThat old man is getting senile!
ReplyDeleteThat old man is getting senile!
ReplyDeleteThe most important thing come from heart but not 1st world rocket high salary which nobody can explain why? PAP will still win but I wish courages ppl to speak up for commoners.
ReplyDeleteIf they follow up on their threat on HDB upgrading, that will show them up for what they are -- recalcitrant, intractable and bloody-minded. I'm sure they are all of the above, but not stupid. Everybody can learn and it's up to voters to teach them.
ReplyDeleteThey fight to win.....We were never in any doubt of that. It involves a lot of dirty rules, moving goal-posts, libel suits, vote-buying, threats, ISD.
ReplyDeleteWe'll see who wins.
Don't worry we have social media! They can't control any info disseminated on this platform. So, share whatever you know (: And seriously, if they control CNA on what news to report, it implies that they are not being transparent at all.
ReplyDeleteLuckily, Singapore is not in that situation. We should learn how to appreciate what we have.
ReplyDeleteOpposition parties might not do a better job than PAP. But the main concern now is that Singaporeans need a change. We need a ruling party that is more humane than PAP. If opposition wins, they will serve all Singaporeans, regardless of race, religion, language and mostly costituancy. Be it Hougang, Aljunied, Potong Pasir, Yishun, Ang Mo Kio or whatever. All Singaporeans will be treated as equal.
ReplyDeleteI will sell my citizenship for $2 million too. Wat is the point of staying in the country when I dun hv a sense of belonging here and r condemn Tat we are not talents. And SG dun hv talents and most of us holds degrees from countries like London, USA, Australia and etc. And foreigners from china India and Philippines having high paying jobs in SG considered talents ?
ReplyDeletethought i could get a break from pap proganda, then here we have ppl like liz. proves that in Sg, you can't escape the proganda of pap.
ReplyDeleteIn fact the opposition has done a lot- just check out all the youtube videos on how Sylvia Lim has kept PAP power in check. As for policy, let's face it, how can the opposition claim anything when PAP is in power??
ReplyDeletegreen completely missed the point. talks just like pap.
ReplyDeleteSame observation here. Straits Times & sister papers, TV, etc, they are very good in telling us how badly off are our neighbouring countries and how corrupt are their leaders, all those demonstrations in Thailand, Myanmar, KL, all the details about sex videos of Anwar, etc etc.
ReplyDeleteYup I checked last night's coverage on CNA, first 30min is PAP. Then 2-3 opposition, then PAP again. Then 2-3 opposition then PAP again. then end. WTF man
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what MM would say about his health minister who ask us to go JB when we are sick and old
ReplyDeleteIf Chen Show Mao must go back to China, then all the PRC foreigners must go back first.
ReplyDeleteMM Lee should go back to 1965. Back to the past.
He should go back to the Abyss to torment the devils there. For this Devil is worse than all devils.
Long live the Devil!
chiam see tong may not be able to stand up straight but his mental strength is stronger than all of us. 27 years as an MP without an office and still fighting for democracy. It shows that his mind is still strong to make decisions that affect us. Most of us will just resign if we are treated unfairly at work after 2-3 years.
ReplyDeleteFor the present LKY, it seems that he forgot that as a person who is supposedly in a reputable position, words need to be chosen wisely. People look up to you as an example to lead. In his recent comments, the aura of arrogance within him seemed to be stronger than anything else. Not even a slight tinge of sincerity like in the old days.A leader should not be arrogant. Simply to suggest things such as going back to china shows that he has lost touch of what he really is there for to what he wants to be there for.
HMMM. might as well ask Janil Puthucheary to go back KL too. I am surprise that PAP rather have a non-Singaporean born MP to govern us. So what is the difference if Chen Show Mao is not born Singaporean or his family moved here.
ReplyDeleteMy grandfather spilt his blood and sweat for my father and me. AND my own government treats me like a third class citizen in Singapore comparing to a foreigner and the upper class.
Hack, I might as well sell my citizenship to any foreigners for $2 million and I migrate somewhere else to be second-class citizen. If PAP allows.
Singapore Citizenship and RED passport for SALE on EBAY!
Minimum bid: RM$2 million
You heard what the mm said, so to all those gifted and talented singaporean working and living abroad ............ DO NOT RETURN HOME!
ReplyDeletedude, appreciation should be given where it's due. i believe i speak for all when i say we appreciate what he did for us in the past. But for what he's done in the present, there's little to appreciate on. Picture it this way, why does an employee have to work hard in a company? He'll lose his job if he doesn't and wouldn't be able to support his family. Imagine telling this employee that he would never lose his job no matter what mistakes he made.Humans tend to get complacent. I'm not anti-PAP but i think it's time they wake up from their bed made from their salaries.If they do, i will definitely vote for them. At the rate they are going, it won't be too long before the gap between the rich and the poor be as big as it is in indonesia considering people can't retire because they can't afford to. Btw, I have a lot of indonesian friends and even they prefer staying in indonesia even though the country is more racist than singapore. Many are trapped after taking tuition grants not allowing them to study outside of singapore unless they have 50k in a local singapore bank or paying a sum. Lower salary may cause corruption but a salary too high may cause arrogance and a blind sight to the citizens. For your info, democracy does not have ministers threatening to bring in their personal army if there ever was a freak election. That's just a sign who will not let the people make a choice which is not in his favor. check a dictionary to see where it fit best. it's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
ReplyDeleteUse common sense and logic to assess a situation. Test the result with your knowledge.Once that is done use your heart to decide.
Who are the ungrateful bastards who took away our pension just before we reach our 45 retirement age and increased it to 55? Now that we have reached our 55 retirement, still cannot take out our hard-earned money until we are 60, and that is only given to us as a few hundred dollar monthly pittance!!!!
ReplyDeleteLKY tells CSM to go back to where? why don't LKY go back to Malaysia.
You're mistaken, lincoln did not speak ill of Chiam See Tong, he is pointing out to that person who made the remark. We know CST worked very hard for the good of our country despite of being shackled by the PAP's unfair treatment. I have never voted for the opposition, but I regretted giving the PAP my support in the past and now do not have the chance to vote against them b'cos of their underhand tactics in this election 2011.
ReplyDeleteIn that case, all foreigners here go back to their foreign lands first before we talk about CSM.
ReplyDeleteI am merely pointing out the mis-title of the article.
ReplyDeleteYour personal attack to him speaks volume of you and your spirit.
It speaks of the same volume of the same person who says, "Chiam See Tong can't even stand up straight to talk, and you people want him to lead the country"
MM Lee is contradicting himself there. First saying he has no suggestions, then suggesting what CSM can do.
ReplyDeleteSpeaks volumes about his mental state.
Wanted to give the ruling party some support, but after looking at the flaming and whacking of opposition candidates left and right and even their proganda ppl here like this Benedict, no thanks.
ReplyDeleteVote for opposition!
perhaps he should be living here first before wanting to serve singaporeans.
ReplyDeleteperhaps he should be living here first before wanting to serve singaporeans.
ReplyDeleteYou think so? Ask yourself will u do that? After 30yrs away fm yr birth place. He still remember what Singapore kopi in taste like? He love singapoe. Yes I believe if I'm nut.
ReplyDeleteChen studied at Nanyang Primary School, Catholic High School and Anglo-Chinese School and his parents have been here since 1972 -- why you call him chinaman. Then all my friends working in London and New York for many years and been overseas since university days, you call them englishman or american mei.... Many of them don't come back yet because Singapore don't recognise their talent in the arts, or in finance/legal career they want to be exposed to a more global setting so they can really stretch and acquire skills, or they cannot get more involved in society here because we've been brought up to be politically uninvolved and we fear repercussions if we get involved. So they just stay overseas and achieve in their careers. Now Chen is back to the 'smaller' world of singapore in terms of career to do something because he cares for the people and future of Singaporea and he gets demonized? please have a sense of justice... he's brave okay to stand up to old man.
ReplyDeleteScolding people who need a change or people with perspective thinking a basterds is a best you can do? Anyway, eh dont compare for christ sake. Never compare the worst but the best to progress. We dont take things for granted therefore we hope for a change. See my parents and relatives suffer from inflation and debts, they dote me, I dont take them for granted, this is it.
ReplyDeleteU are LKY too.
Exactly, Tell him that if he fail in the election, he must go back to china, it is as equivalent as asking all foreigner that cannot make it to go back china, I dont see him doing that!!?
ReplyDeleteMy classmate is from china, she fail her accounting exam 3 time, i dont see her going back to china? LOL
What LKY talking?????
Please dont make heartless statement of Mr Chiam. We are talking about CSM and LKY here, out of point you.
ReplyDeleteYes Godsent.. He can make a fortune out there, but he choose to come back to promote democracy.
ReplyDeletePlease be objective. CSM volunteered to serve NS! if that is not enough, he is riding high in his career, who would be so stupid to give up millions of dollars a year to come here and be flamed, slapped left & right. CSM can walk into the best law firms in the world any moment.
ReplyDeleteBut, CSM came back because he loves Singapore.
He is a citizen of the world. Could've just retired in the US of A and made lotsa money. But he's here - appreciate him! It's like how God so loved the world who sent his son but to see him crucified.
ReplyDeletepap made you work until you die ,retirement is a dream for singaporean ,retirement is for the bosses not any orinally working class because of their changing policy that side the bosses, compare further not just indonesia , people live to enjoy living enjoy life, but what about singaporenan .live only for work work work.
ReplyDeletetrue that. Like nicole seah said, if she wanted to be rich and get fame, she would've joined the PAP. why would he come back from afar just to be discriminated by the so called leaders
ReplyDeleteCSM has stayed overseas for the past 30 years on his own... LKY has travelled overseas for the past 40years (at least) on Singapore account. CSM flys Singapore flag overseas, but it's probably LKY bring Singapore flag overseas and try to plant it somewhere.
ReplyDeleteThere's no who is better or not. They are equivalently outstanding. Nobody resorts to finger pointing and I probably won't ask people to go back. Imagine all the policies been returned? i think they were mainly your policies, sir.
No absolute right or wrong. PAP have to accept that this is their own doing. Which is in fact good for us, Singaporeans. PAP's concern now is their own party. Whereas everyone else is concerned about the country and country issues.
They are over-paid, unlike our neighbours, so rightfull they should perform well, though not up to our expectations yet. I don't see why we should be appreciative when they are earning an obscene salary. This is the minimum they must deliver. If they get much lower pay, I would salute them and be more appreciative for their contributions to our nation, but not when their annual pay is more than 100 times an averge low-income earner who earns just 1K per month. The PAP's argument of offering ever higher pay to prevent corruption is flawed, how much is enough to prevent it? Nobody knows. Where's the pubic service spirit? And does the PAP candidates is of such low calibre and quality (having scrutinise by PAP over so many tea sessions and investigations) that we must pay them high to prevent corruption? Look at recent cases of high paid civil servants who still corrupted, so no matter what, money can't solve corruption.
ReplyDeleteWhy the double standards? If a foreign born national becomes Singaporean and support PAP, he is considered a gem. If he sides the opposition, he is considered a reject and should get out of Singapore?? Does PAP owns Singapore?
ReplyDeleterespect has to be earned and should be mutual.
ReplyDeleteNobody likes to badmouth another, least of all LKY but its he who badmouth just about everybody who disagrees with him.
And why only bring out the worse-off countries for comparision?
please do not bring out the past in order to blindly glorify him . Thats the past.
This GE is about the future. The PAP policies presently have failed us so its just moot to talk
about voting them for the future.
Dear bealittleappreciative; Singapore is better off than our neighbours is due to what the previous batch of Singaporean toiled and built. Wake Up !
ReplyDeleteIt is good to appreciate what LKY had done in the PAST. Look at the last 5 yrs, see what some of their million$ ministers had done, are their performance up to standard?? The answer is very clear. Many singaporeans are disadvantaged from education to jobs. Can this translate into a stronger nation?? Stronger PAP don't equate to a stronger Singapore!
ReplyDeleteNext, look at the quality of PAP new candidates!! We are going to pay "Bestest price" in the world, what do we get?
The answer is so clear. Please learn to vote "without fear and favour".
Don't remain in the past, grow up and stand on your own. LKY won't be be able to perform like before. What we are seeing are "clones", their performances are not up to standard.
(Ng looks like Lee, can he perform like him, hehe).
Are we buying imitation copy at the highest price in the world?
I have no respect for Lee Kuan Yew.
ReplyDeleteHe's an arrogant political bully.
We, Singaporeans must hold him accountable for the loss of our reserves incurred by GIC & Temasek Holdings.
this title is totally mis-post. "If they do not win, then Mr Chen Show Mao - I have no suggestions as to what he can do, he can go back to China where he has been for 30 years." please read properly.
ReplyDeletePlease be fair to opposition candidates who step up. We are mature enough to judge candidates, to debate with others and debate we must because we love our country. When we debate, the best ideas and perspectives come out. That is the essence of having a critical mass of opposition in parliament, its not about individuals.
ReplyDeleteWhen there is open debate in all spheres of life, not just in the new media - we begin to realise how talented and intelligent Singaporeans really are. I have a dream - that all Singaporeans are valued, regardless of their educational background, where they stay, political affliations, race, language and religion.
I have lots of respect for LKY and read all his books and most of his interviews. However his comment that CSM should go back to China if he lost the election, really made me lose respect for LKY. It is clearly double standards to the max! I doubt he will ever say that if CSM were a PAP member.
ReplyDeleteI travelled extensively and have to agree that our neighbors are less better off than us. However, that does not mean we cannot better ourselves further. The fact of the current ruling party and government of Singapore is a disconnect with ground issues.... And that why I think the alternative (not opposing) parties are good to leverage the platform further. Thanks.
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ReplyDeleteYou think it is okay to be grateful like a dog who never questions and who's gratefulness is unconditional? I would rather be a grateful bastard who risks being called an "ungrateful bastard" by the likes of you. To be really grateful, you have to call a spade, for the sake of the country. The country is bigger than the person who played a large part in building it. And yes, the really ungrateful are those who worship at the altar of authority.
With apologies only to my dog, and all other dogs. They are way better than the acolytes at the altar of authority.
He is telling the chinaman, if he is not happy, go back to china. LOL
ReplyDeleteLook forward, my dear.
ReplyDeleteIt is a disgrace to Singapore to have this 87 year old senile fool still in power.
ReplyDeleteI feel so ashamed.
The guy is a totally disgrace to Singapore.
So tired of CNA - eg last nite so much coverage of ruling party and just scraps of alternative parties. And then the press also like that. Will somebody come up with a paper and TV that Singaporeans can be proud of?
ReplyDeleteIf Chen Show Mao had not left Singapore to study overseas all those years, to become a triple Ivy league candidate before returning to fight for our democracy, he would not be the "foreign talent" that all those PAP "talented" guys fear. Remember, that he was a Singapore citizen of Taiwan parentage who migrated to America to study, shows that our education system back than was not good & open enough.
ReplyDeletehow to get our fellow singaporeans to see the light and vote opposition? cos the whore media which most singaporeans rely on for news, always sabo the opposition and cover up the useless good for nothing papigs.
ReplyDeletehubby, so hot here, when you coming to join me? nice to meet our daghter-in-law..
ReplyDeletecsm is a hero! he served ns, and did't lose our billions overseas.
On the contrary, they should all return now to kick some arrogance asses for the love of their fellow Singaporeans.
ReplyDeleteFor those of you who bad-mouthed LKY, have you ever lived outside your coconut shell? Don't have to travel too far, try living in Indonesia for 6 months and see if you enjoy Singapore more or Indonesia more. Don't take things for granted and always remember how you all got to be where you are now. Don't be an ungrateful bastards.
ReplyDeleteHe still can go back to China. I can't.
ReplyDeleteFair enough, you say driving is cheap here right? Have you tried parking in CBD (Australian version of multi-storey carpark), one full day of parking can cost you $80++. And that is the reason why trains at peak hour is crazy insane here as people simply can't afford to drive and then park going to work. And as you say, who wants to take public transport right? Than please explain why the trains are so sardine packed during peak hours.
ReplyDeleteAlso, if buying a car in Singapore is impossible, why are traffic jams so bad???? Why are there so many cars on the road that the government keeps having to raise and build more ERP gantries??? and COE prices are high.
worker praty , next election , you win another 5% , LTK are you ready to become Pm
ReplyDeleteAs simple as this; LKY fears competition fr Workers party & Chen Show Mao.CSM should not feel ashamed or angry to be told to return to china.He can say the same to LKY too.As s'porean esp'y after serving NS he has every right to stay here.He is also gainfully employed.It is proven that CSM is a formidable opponent & very popular too.
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